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Takeaway Tips EP73 Mastering Entrepreneurship : Guests Rima & Morgan The Peachies Brand

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In this Takeaway Tips Episode, Peachies is a bold new player in the nappies industry, founded by two female entrepreneurs, Rima & Morgan, who faced significant challenges with determination and resilience. They share valuable insights about branding, community support, and the importance of self-care in entrepreneurship. 
• Exploring the significance of distinct branding in a competitive market 
• Understanding the risks and logistics involved in launching a product 
• The power of community and collaboration among female founders 
• Practical tips for aspiring entrepreneurs based on personal experiences 
• Encouraging vulnerability and humility in leadership roles 
• Celebrating the journey and impact of nurturing customer relationships

Chapters
00:00 The Takeaway Series Intro
02:59 Taking Risks and Figuring Out Logistics
06:09 Lessons from Female Founders
16:10 The Importance of Self-Care
22:59 Talking About Your Ideas and Getting Started
26:11 The Value of a Supportive Co-Founder

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The Trailblazers Experience:

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Morgan:

Actually, we were so happy that within I think like three weeks, we went to one of these big baby shows where, you know, a lot of different vendors are present and, like thousands of pregnant women will come through in a weekend and be shopping for all the like, you know, all the kit basically. And we were walking around and I think I came back to the stand and I was like Rima, there are five other companies with some derivative of the name we were looking at, and Peaches is distinct, and so I was like we dodged a bullet on that one. I'm so glad and that's not what we took forward, even though it worked in many ways. So, yeah, you kind of have to bet on being different, but that's that's.

Rima:

Yeah, that's where that's the only way we'll be able to stand out in a category that's as big and as kind of incumbent as ours. I think the name Peaches is also a good reflection of the type of messaging we put out to the world in general. We always say or we've realized very early on, you need to be really bold and distinct in order to stand out. There are so many, of course, great companies out there, but that also means there's a lot of competition, not only in the Napi industry, but also in many other industries, and people are just. People's time span has become so limited and your, you know your attention, you see so many ads every day that whatever can stick out or is sticky as a brand will stay with you. And now we, of course, have data around this, but even you know even real life interactions, like when I go.

Rima:

I went to a networking event two weeks ago and in the in the google headquarter, and I signed up, uh, in the, the reception and told them well, rima from Peaches, co-founder. And he was like what's Peaches? And I said, well, the next generation nappy company. And then two hours later, when he walked past me, he was like you're Peaches, right, you're a nappy lady. He didn't remember my name, but he remembered Peaches, of course. Peaches, yeah, which to me was the best thing that could have happened. And so, yeah, it is be bold, honestly, like say the things that 80% of people would probably not like, because that's when they remember it.

The Trailblazers Experience:

Exactly, you need to grab that 20%. And I have one question. It wasn't in the deck of questions we sent, but you've been around for a year. How did you, in terms of logistics, were you drop shipping at the beginning because obviously you don't want to produce a large amount of peaches, nappies and then have it tank because you haven't sold. You've only sold the 15 to your family members. How did you um figure out your logistics at the beginning?

Morgan:

no reason I say yeah, right, like it's, that's such a good question. Uh, so we did have to buy a whole bunch of Navis up front, and that was, you know, a huge part of our risk.

The Trailblazers Experience:

What was the MOQ For beginning?

Morgan:

Half a million, oh my God, yeah, three shipping containers worth. So we were nervous let's put it that way when they were not. You know, when you launch in day two, you're like amazon was going to be the next place to sell it at a discount. It's like what? Yeah, exactly, I like I don't think we considered it because we were like this has to work. So, no, we, we brought our, we bring our product over from from north america, canada and, uh, eastern canada, and we ship from there. So, and we ship all across the uk. And it was just part of a risk of setting up our business. And that's, you know, part of why we think there is little sort of quote disruption in our space is because it's not an easy game to break into. It's capital intensive. You know, I don't think you could bootstrap a nappy brand, really, unless you were starting with like a nice pool of bootstrap cash. Yeah.

Morgan:

Exactly, you had an extra year for it, exactly Without bank account clocking down to like 11 pounds every single month for like 18 months. We were not really in that position, so it was tough. I mean, logistics was something we had to take a bet on, and that's why we had to raise money before launching even, and we're able to kind of drip feed it in the early days to be able to get it off the ground. Because, yeah, as you know, exactly what you articulated was our ultimate fear having half a million nappies sitting in a warehouse that we're liable for and can't sell. But it taught us really early to like get comfortable with the uncomfortable again and just like you know, have to have to do it.

Morgan:

I mean, I feel like it is true. A lot of life events happen in the middle of big moments the week of my wedding, I think there's a thread.

The Trailblazers Experience:

I'm connecting the dots here.

Morgan:

It's really it's really kind of shocking, rima, and I thought it was all over. We were like it's done, the manufacturer wants us to buy way more than we're prepared, or even have money for blah, blah, blah, and we realized, though, there's always a solution.

Rima:

Oh, you cried out first, cried out first for a day, and then you start finding a solution.

Morgan:

We're like it's over, the dream is over, and then we, like, sat up the next morning, brushed ourselves off. I'm like I'm sure there's a way we can figure this out. And there was, and we figured it out. And I think fortunately for us, though we met those kind of challenges really early in our journey, and so we kind of started to like OK, we have to have thick skin, you know. We have to know we're going to be rejected, and whether it's investors or customers or whatever the detractors are, whoever they are, they're always going to be there, and, in a way, the more people tell you you're crazy, the more you know you're right. And so, like, you have to kind of find that, that resilience, and so rima and I, yeah, took on a lot of risk and it's made us it's made us better entrepreneurs, because that's part of it, yeah, and I think next time around we'll do a different type of business.

Rima:

Well, next time around we might have that exit.

Morgan:

We're hoping our next venture cause we already know we're going to work on it together is just going to sit back and invest in in women-led businesses. That's going to be our hopefully our dream.

Rima:

Paying it forward. What forward? What's your plan in your head in terms of when you'd like to exit? What's the dream I think? I honestly think we can't, we shouldn't or we always say we shouldn't talk about the exit, but it's like kind of. You see that this could be an option in the future, but you also know that life always happens differently and you probably know you're not there yet.

Rima:

Yeah, exactly, and like, staying humble is such an important thing when you're an entrepreneur, you know, as I, as I said, it's a marathon and you need to have thick skin and patience and for us it's, honestly, this is not what gets us out of bed in the morning. Yes, money is great if you can get through your month and pay your rent and, like, cover your main costs and have some sort of a more or less a nice life depends. This is, of course, subjective, but ultimately for us it's, you know, seeing customer reviews, customer emails, happy um. Or seeing it out in the wild.

Rima:

When I walk through london and see a box in front of someone's doorstep, that is like the happiest moment ever. Or, for example, a review we recently received from a mother saying I'm so grateful PG's was around when I had my first baby because it eliminated the anxiety of being a first-time parent. That is something so beautiful that we wouldn't have expected. Like having this impact on families lives, not just, you know, providing them with longer nights of sleep and and a great product or whatever, but like, yeah, yeah, making them less anxious, great, wonderful. That means that we're really creating something beautiful.

The Trailblazers Experience:

It's seeing that impact, isn't it, like you said, the recognition people remembering your brand name, then you know you're a brand. People are actually referring to you as Peaches the Nappy Company and there's a lot of traction in there as well. Let's talk about you as female founders. How do you perceive women empowerment in the entrepreneurial space? What are the things that you've seen and that you've enjoyed? You've talked about the community and the programs you've been involved in, but, for example, bi Women Built is an interesting community as well, but what's your perception of women empowerment in the entrepreneur space?

Morgan:

even though funding is low in terms of investment to that subsectors in women is just the collaboration you see across across companies and I think that's that is an example of a wider experience we've had is women standing up for women and being in being there to help drive each other's business forward. And you know whether that's partner with. You know, hanks, for example, they have an brilliant female founded team and we swap notes on things. You know how's your business going, how's our going, how's your raise going, blah, blah, blah. And I think finding those, those like minded entrepreneurs, is incredible. And there's no sugarcoating how important it is for women to also keep lifting up each other and championing each other's work and not being competitive but collaborative. And I think there's space for all of us. Um, we've seen, we know, because of the numbers, the numbers prove there's space for like for all of us. And, um, you know, lifting each other's businesses over time will mean, hopefully, that more of us are successful that can therefore one day also reinvest in the next generation of brands or or companies. So, you know, women not being present on cap tables is because they haven't had the opportunity to, you know, accumulate that kind of wealth really to be able to reinvest in the next generation. And so I think this is, this is a huge effort that we're all part of and you know it doesn't only require women, by the way like we don't only have to solve our own problems, we have to bring in other people and galvanize other groups to be able to support us.

Morgan:

But it's important, it's something we really believe in. I mean we, I don't know. It's like the same way that I, like cry every time the US wins an Olympic medal. It's like not as annoying thing to say from an American. The only thing I'm patriotic about is, uh, it's the same way when I see other women businesses, when, like that's amazing and what we can do to try to lift up other brands, collaborate with them and marketing initiatives or whatever it is uh we'd love to do, because it's because it's really, it's really important and it's it's important to create role models.

Morgan:

And you know, rima and I would probably say we have a lot more work to do before being like, oh, we're role models. But I guess at some point you just realize you've got a lot of at least your experience to share and that experience alone can help somebody find the confidence to kind of even just take the next step forward. You know certain things that feel super unknown we can shed light on? Like, how do you set up a business? It's like actually just log in the company's house and create a business for, like what, 25 pounds, something like that. Like you don't need a lawyer, you don't need anything, you need you need literally chat, gpt and some google search, and like you can start a business tomorrow, right now, this hour, whatever.

Rima:

uh, this is in the uk we have to disclose ads that happened in austria. In Austria, where I'm from, Things are a bit different.

Morgan:

It is a lot more money and a lot more kind of bureaucracy, but, you know, there are just like ways to demystify this journey and I think we're early enough in ours where we have those details very fresh and so we'd like to be able to share where we can. But community of women is who we rely on most and and the allies around us that have actually done an amazing job of of opening opportunities for us. You know, we have other companies we're close to, founded by men that will recommend us for podcasts or speaking panels or whatever, and like the huge impacts, and so we try to.

Rima:

We try to make sure we pay it forward for the same way, or give back to the communities that lifted us up, so that we can make sure more and more smarter women come up behind us and I think, because you mentioned the, the role model aspect, I think everyone can support other businesses in the smallest ways possible, whether you know, a friend of yours starts a business and now, knowing what this means and what a beast of work that is leaving a review, for example, purchasing a product, a small one, um, posting an instagram story about their product, tagging them on instagram or tiktok or wherever this is so such a small gesture, but it can mean so much to someone starting out and actually encourage them to continue doing it. Because, as we mentioned quite a few times already, those some days are really not easy. Some days are fun, like when you do a podcast recording or when you yeah, talk about your business, when you see happy customers. But there are also the hard days where you're struggling to keep envisioning that dream and, as Morgan mentioned, the staircase is really what we talk about a lot and this emoji we haven't said any of that in a while, but recently it happened again the bears on the roller coaster is our favorite gift that we use.

Rima:

This is how it feels sometimes and it's okay. It's part of the game, but I think it's okay to emphasize here that it's not easy and some days are hard, some days are great, and having a co-founder to lean on is the most beautiful thing ever.

The Trailblazers Experience:

Rima, you've mentioned really an important part about how to support founders. If you don't have the cash to invest or to buy the product because it doesn't resonate, it's, like you said, simple things such as just hit that follow button, because if you can get more people on your Instagram, that amplifies with the algorithm and then you can do the dirty work of trying to get people to actually buy your product. But it's little things and it's this misconception that people think support is actually buying the product. You don't have to. There are other things you can do as well and you'll keep on that roller coaster to grow your business. But it's little things, isn't it? It's the things that add up the incremental gains that will grow the business over time.

Rima:

For example, we have recently started to talk openly about other female founded businesses that we admire on LinkedIn. We would just dedicate a weekly LinkedIn post to them, and it's a beautiful initiative that can support other women. And LinkedIn, by the way, I think, is one of the the most essential uh tools. As an entrepreneur, it it is definitely outside of our comfort zone creating content as a founder on whether that's for instagram, linkedin, it's never for us, at least. It's not fun. We're trying, we're starting to enjoy it because we see that it resonates with our audience. So to say, audience or our community audience is only one-sided. Community is two-sided, so I think in that case we do get a response. So it's two-sided, but we see that people are actually excited about what we're building and what we're talking about and even if it's the things that challenges the, that we got wrong, those actually perform best. I think people just share that with each other and it's the things that no one wants to talk about that perform best.

The Trailblazers Experience:

Now you are two amazing powerhouses, co-founders, navigating peaches in various ups and downs. What does self-care look to you? We need you to be strong mentally, physically, and be able to have that headspace to come back even better. Start with you, rima. What does self-care mean to you.

Rima:

For me, self-care is a mix out of mental and physical self-care. We've mentioned things like being able to go on holidays or take a weekend off and actually turn your phone off, uh, from time to time, of course, morgan and I can't do that always, uh. We're mostly 24 seven at least available, um, also on the weekends. When things, um, when things need require our attention, we're there, uh. But we also sometimes try to give each other the space to to yeah, quite a solid routine, especially in the morning. I have recently started to incorporate walks into my day in the morning. I've read that phrase on LinkedIn the death walk, which I think is quite a brutal way of saying it, but imagining that you're actually going to be dead at some point while you're walking for 20, 30 minutes in the morning and kind of getting the. It just gives you calm and gratefulness and a perspective that you're actually like this little beep in the world that at some point is not going to be there anymore, but now you have the time to make the most out of it. That has certainly helped me. And then, apart from that, for the past I think three or four years I've I think I've had little days off from Pilates with my New York based Pilates teacher. Shout out to Melissa Wood at this point. I think she doesn't need the shout out anymore, but I'll give it anyways. She's accompanied me through through every single phase of my life in the last few years.

Rima:

And then meditation. I truly believe in meditation and in personal development going to see a therapist. I think we should talk very openly about those things. You can go through really tough phases mentally, but having someone there to listen to you and to actually start to be really self-aware and start to see we're also within a day through which phases you go mentally. Not every hour is fun. There isn't. There is a fun hour, um, and kind of, yeah, just being aware of this, this shift that that happens inside of you and how different behaviors in your life can influence the, the decision you take as an entrepreneur, the way, how you can show up. So really, yeah, prioritizing yourself and taking care of yourself and you know, limiting things like alcohol and so on.

Rima:

I know it's summer and it's fun, but ultimately we are not getting any younger and the moment you need two days to recover a hangover, you ask yourself the question twice how many Aperol Spritz you have.

Morgan:

Morgan, I think Remus has hit some really really important things. What I would maybe add, that I kind of incorporate to mine, is just building on the kind of point about having other people to talk to, so like neutral third parties that are not necessarily connected to the business or you personally, is really valuable. Somebody else that can be that kind of sounding board, necessarily connected to the business or you personally, is really valuable. It's somebody else that can be that kind of sounding board In my case it's a coach, you know whether that's a pastor or a therapist or whatever that, wherever you can find that that source, I think it's. It's really valuable.

Morgan:

I am around all the time, but I also do go on holiday on places where there's no wifi on purpose, so that you know I can get that mental space away. Rima and I always kind of laugh that like the second, we kind of get up from the desk and go walk around the block is when all the creativity happens again, and so you really like you carve out that time for yourself because you can recharge and you come back fresher, of course, um, but you also have more creativity. So for me it's playing tennis. I love to play tennis. I love sports generally, but that's really kind of my outlet. I suck at going to the gym and I've kind of let go of it instead of trying to force myself into being that person because I'm not that person. I love spending time with my family.

Morgan:

My son's 10 months old and he's in a well, I'm sure he'll always be in a cool phase, but he's in a really cool phase at the moment and soaking it up is really beautiful. And I'd love to read, frankly, like, if I can carve out some time for me to read something usually fiction, except Rima actually just gave me Robert Iger, the CEO of Disney's book that he wrote in 2019. And I, like, devoured it in a weekend. That was a break from my fiction, uh, bent. You know, finding what you it's really knowing, like, what brings you joy and energy and knowing what doesn't, and being able to kind of manage the time between those things. You will, you know you always have to do things that drain you, but it's like how can you best manage the time?

Morgan:

And I think now, becoming a parent, I'm like rigorous about time management, even more so, and it's because it's necessary. It's necessary for Peachy's, it's necessary for my son, it's necessary for me and that actually has been a big one. And I totally agree with Remo on things like changing lifestyles up. You know, like I drink a lot more non-alcoholic beer or low alcohol drinks than I ever have and like I'm super grateful for it, both for my body but also for my mind. And that's been, that's been a big shift also. I mean not that I was like I like to have a good time before my baby, like we had a great time, you know, get some dance on dance floor, but like now, hang being a parent with a hangover is like it's the worst. So, yeah, I think you have to assert yourself and create boundaries, in a way, and that is like if you can do that from the beginning of founding a business, then you're setting yourself up for success. I feel like I guess it's.

The Trailblazers Experience:

you know, setting those boundaries for the different phases of your life, isn't it the times of, like you said, the long weekend and having those amazing drinks, and now you have to be focused and agile and running a business and a household. Then they're just different priorities and thank God now we've got alternatives, isn't it? The 0% market is booming, so it's giving you that feeling of I'm still a wine. I've tried it. Well, I've been like this is actually not so bad.

The Trailblazers Experience:

So I'm still a wine uh, I've tried it where I've been like this is actually not so bad. So I'm still able to partake in uh activities with my friends without questioning why I'm not drinking. It's, it's, it's like a statement I'm having my zero percent and that's fine as well. Last but not least so, we always end the show with our trailblazer takeaway tips, something to leave the audience with as a keen, a parent, working together, investment funding the three tips that you want to leave the audience with. So we'll start with you, rima, so you get six, basically because of the two of you. So that's amazing.

Rima:

I'm sure we can come up with even more than six, but we'll try to limit it. The first thing I would like to talk about is talk to everyone about your idea once you have one. I'm actually quite opposite to what everyone thinks is I need to try my and keep my idea secret because if, what if someone steals it and executes on it, and so on, 90% of an idea is execution. If you're the right person to do it, you'll do it and you know now, knowing, two or three years after starting and building PGs, it has been a lot of work. Honestly, it is not easy to replicate that and to replicate exactly our story, and so go out there and talk to as many people as possible. You don't know who someone might know. You don't know. You know, maybe the friend that you, from which you would have least expected it knows, maybe knows the manufacturer you're going to work with, or maybe your mother actually knows another investor, or something like this. So it's really getting out there with your idea and and also accepting if some, if people, tell you either that you're crazy. You, of course, need to be careful with those statements because, as we've mentioned, you know, someone told me at a at an at a fair in Geneva, who would ever buy nappies online? When I told them about our idea and clearly there was something here. So, yes, the crazy aspect is one. But also, if people tell you, I don't think there is a market for this, start digging deeper and start digging into what that means, because maybe there is no market, but then at least you realize that quite early on, instead of investing years in something that might not be, might not going out there and early and talking to potential customer audience, for example, and starting to understand if this is something that you should pursue.

Rima:

That was tip number one. Tip number two is just get started. It's yeah, how should I say it? There's Chat, gpt and Google can become your best friends at the early stages and should become your best friend. Google has so many answers, and whether that's setting up a business or whether that's figuring out how to set up a Google or, in the meantime, google meta ad and you've never done it in your life you really need to go out there, get your hands dirty and just upscale yourself as much as possible, and so, whatever you can teach yourself, you don't have to outsource, which, of course, is expensive, but also in order to outsource and in order to hire the right talent. It's good if you at least have a basic foundation and even better if you know a bit more about the area, yeah, what the job requires and what do you actually want from them, because otherwise you're always tapping in the in the dark. You're always relying on other people's opinions and whatever you don't know, you can only believe.

Rima:

And my third tip is uh, get yourself a co-founder, as, as we mentioned and within the within the episode, we couldn't have done this without each other Knowing the ups and downs of entrepreneurship.

Rima:

In the meantime, the highs are a little higher, the lows are a little bit less low. I guess you can just really bounce ideas off each other, you can rely on each other, and I think the reason why I'm so grateful to have Morgan is not because she does the work, but because she has been there for such a long time and we've both kind of made this decision together to pursue this and no matter what it takes to be there we sometimes joke that it's it feels like being married to that person you kind of are. Morgan, of course, is married as well. I'm not, um, but uh, yeah, we're certainly in some sort of way married to each other and it's, it's beautiful, but it also requires some work, and we put in that work those were brilliant, and now I'm struggling to think of what mine will be, but I think, um, I'll kind of focus maybe more on the kind of sort of interpersonal things.

Morgan:

I think staying humble is really important. I think Rima mentioned that earlier, but that humility, even if you know you have like the most badass idea, I think is really important, because humility helps you see where you're vulnerable as a business owner and where you need to kind of whether upskill yourself or bring another help. I think can not only make it so that you can do things like attract talent, but when you have really high highs and really low lows, like what is inevitable as being a founder, you're able to weather that storm a lot more if you maintain humility. Actually, I think vulnerability, though, is also a big one, rima, and I don't have all the answers. We never will. We're also not experts, so to speak, in our category. We are generalists. We said, and we have always been shocked as to what the results can be is, if you just ask the question, the worst somebody can say is no, and if they tell you no, it's going to tell you something about whatever that question was. But asking questions is incredible what you can achieve and what people will be willing to lend to you in terms of time or experience if you just ask. And so I think that vulnerability of not being worried about being a know-it-all is actually a huge, powerful tool.

Morgan:

And number three thing what's number three? Number three is your to-do list is never going to shrink, literally never going to shrink. It will only get longer. So you've got to spend a lot of time thinking about how you invest your time, the the like. So what is it? Einstein's matrix kind of thing of like do, schedule, delegate or throw away. That is something I've even sort of re-implemented into my life recently and it's had a huge effect, because you are more aware of what only you can achieve and need to do and execute on and what that impact will be. But also, where can you ask for help? Um, because you not only will your to-do list not get long, not get any shorter, but like you need help. You can't do it all by yourself.

Morgan:

And we find Rima and I find actually things we collaborate on is what we do best, because you have you have a sounding board, you have somebody to give you feedback and you implement it, even if I ask Rima look, this is my idea, what do you think? And she says have you thought about this? I'm like that's valuable, no matter what you know, like she'll always have something to add. And so I think, yeah, learning to kind of look at that, to do list less as a source of anxiety and more of a source of opportunity, will help you kind of tackle it each day. And for me, I pick off what I call eating the frog, which is like the one thing I'm going to tackle in the morning that I like dreading. But if I get it done in the morning when I'm kind of most alerts and full of beans and filling, it was five, 30 in the morning, right it was five, 30 in the morning, that is a hundred percent true.

Morgan:

Even woke up before the baby, I mean, I was just like, oh, my to-do list, but you just kind of eat it and I think, yeah, thinking about those is these are opportunities of what I can achieve today. Or it is kind of a nice positive way to not get too daunted, because it is incredible all the hats you will wear and if you're open to that experience, yeah, I mean the founder life is super fulfilling in that way.

The Trailblazers Experience:

Amazing Morgan Rima. Great story Peaches, subscription nappy, uh products out there for you mothers and and fathers who don't want to be schlepping nappies from the store. You can have it delivered to your door. I mean, that guy in geneva needs to eat his handkerchief or whatever he was uh saying back in the day. Honestly, because I'm just thinking about my days. My kids were born in Germany and I was there with the pram and it's the biggest purchase you have. You have to schlep it with you. I definitely could have needed peaches in those days. But, amazing story, it's really great. You're both so humble for you to share openly and be transparent about your journey, about fundraising, about the decision even to start the business, working with a co-founder and what are the key elements. I'm sure that you inspired some woman man out there. This is a show for women, but we inspire everyone, which is really important. So thank you so much for sharing your journey. Thank you for having us.

Rima:

It was a pleasure.

Morgan:

Absolutely, it was a pleasure.

The Trailblazers Experience:

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